tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post8084075705021343541..comments2024-01-29T09:59:57.107-06:00Comments on The Literary Amnesiac: Reading in Retrospect: "Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm" by Kate Douglas Wiggin, or Why the Anne of Green Gables Series is BetterKathyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15867744753830511111noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-91913928957217333312019-07-06T07:29:52.194-05:002019-07-06T07:29:52.194-05:00Seriously.
I haven't read Anne of Green Gabl...Seriously. <br /><br />I haven't read Anne of Green Gables, but I found RoSF believable and had none of that ridiculous stuff that only happened in fantasyland. RoSF is true, something that could have happened to someone I knew, and even though at times Rebecca was unworldly kind, her kindness was almost always justified. <br /><br />I like that there is an entire backdrop to her story and that the people in her life weren't just there to help her grow; the people had stories of their own and I found them all enticing. <br /><br />Regarding Adam Ladd. I thought it was clear by the end of the book that he realized that he wasn't in love with Rebecca after all. Rebecca might have had a bit of a crush on him during her younger years, but let's admit it, a lot of teenage girls get harmless crushes on older guys. After everything that had happened to her, Rebecca merely outgrew her infatuation and (just like we all do), fortunately, Adam Ladd finally realized that Rebecca wasn't about to be swayed by his supposed "love" for her. Marriage between them was impossible. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15999752250887479465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-75048469175489768582018-09-20T00:26:37.085-05:002018-09-20T00:26:37.085-05:00I think he is 34 at the end when she is 17.I think he is 34 at the end when she is 17.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111405010651183324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-41125674791794013692018-09-06T21:46:25.744-05:002018-09-06T21:46:25.744-05:00I totally agree. I understand that older men marri...I totally agree. I understand that older men married younger women and still do, but as I'm reading this book to my 6 and 8 year old children, they're specifically asking, "wait how old are they?" And "do they love each other?".... Ugh! He's clearly grooming her. She's not 25 and he's 50, she's like 12 when they meet! Don't tell me he couldn't make friends with a woman his age who could "be a comfort" to him. Nope. Adam Ladd is creepy. What's wrong with us that we "want her to marry him" at the end? Just because he's nice, handsome and wealthy? Nope. He should have kept his distance and then met her again when she was 17 or 18 at least. Really, we're not fully rational until our mid 20's (emotionally even later for some). Back off and let her become the woman she's meant to be without invading her pubescent years. I didn't read this book as a child. But I would've picked up on her crush and his unusual interest, weakly masked by him giving presents to both girls. This book is a story of a wonderful little girl with a world of potential and I wish his character were not so typical of an insecure man seeking to stake a claim. It's as plain as day. Now... we still have a few chapters left. I got online after chapter 11 when he visits her dorm room to find out the ending because I was getting worried. I'm so relieved it doesn't end in marriage. I feel obligated to carefully unpackage this as a warning to my kids. I do feel bad that he can't just be a nice older friend who issues special attention with his time and gifts and only wants her friendship. That's a game of roulette that I for one, do not want my kids playing. I'm sorry Adam... I wasn't born yesterday. janina143https://www.blogger.com/profile/00257470533979576828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-24743507585973051992018-08-17T15:20:04.797-05:002018-08-17T15:20:04.797-05:00A thirty year old man and a teenager? He's pro...A thirty year old man and a teenager? He's probably older than that! When they meet it says she was twelve and Aunt Jane comments, 'I don't s'pose he could be more than thirty'. In all seriousness, this is one of the failings of the novel, from a child's point of view. As a child, I totally understood why Anne (of Green Gables) might fancy Gilbert. But a 30 year old and a 12 year old? Sure it develops as she becomes a teenager, but he clearly has a crush on her within a few short years. As a kid I thought, 'This book is a lot like Anne of Green Gables, but I wish she'd find a boy her own age like Gilbert ... what's with this old guy?' Then again, I also never understood why Jo from Little Women wouldn't marry Laurie - ha. An adult perspective does change things somewhat. (Though a grown man in his thirties hankering after a teenage girl? No thanks!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-40615881812189848242018-03-16T11:45:38.605-05:002018-03-16T11:45:38.605-05:00I love these books equally, but I read RoSF first ...I love these books equally, but I read RoSF first and Rebecca will always be more special to me. I am wondering why Lesa said "the writing seemed geared to younger readers." Are you certain some of you have read the unabridged version? RoSF was not written as a "children's book" (neither was ANNE). RoSF was the best selling novel of 1904; not children's novel, just novel. There are a lot of passages and language I did not truly understand until I was an adult, including the chapters "Over the Teacups" and "Roses of Joy," and the comment Rebecca's mother makes about Aunt Miranda in "Goodbye Sunnybrook" which reveals so much about the young Miranda's hopes and dreams. Eric Wiggin was no blood relation of KDW; he was a distant cousin to her husband and basically simplified the two Rebecca books into one big narrative and then wrote his own ending where he went wholesale crazy, killing off characters and then marrying off other ones. It is basically hinted all along in the latter part of the text of RoSF that Adam Ladd is waiting for Rebecca to grow up before marrying her, and since she is not an adult yet at the end of the original book, I will assume that is why Wiggin left it there. Once Emma Jane rides off into the sunset with her suitor in NEW CHRONICLES OF REBECCA, it's a foregone conclusion. I did notice Eric Wiggin subtracted seven or eight years from Adam's age in his books so that it did not seem creepy that a man of thirty was in love with a teenage girl!Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00684124498981972463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-50652290842030043042014-12-13T15:11:32.031-06:002014-12-13T15:11:32.031-06:00It's great, how such strong feelings can be br...It's great, how such strong feelings can be brought out in so many people by books!Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15867744753830511111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-12218158060003139172014-09-05T09:06:18.028-05:002014-09-05T09:06:18.028-05:00My impression of RofSBF when I was 11 or 12, was t...My impression of RofSBF when I was 11 or 12, was that, esp in comparison with A of GG, it was depressing somehow. Anne of Green Gables, otoh, seemed genuinely, universally,optimistic and fun, when she wasn't going through difficulties, which were always solved. It was not unrealistic, as death among young people was still fairly common, and some of her peers died, and Gilbert almost did. She was highly intelligent although I never understood why she wasn't more into animals, although she is in the later books. The other characters were alive & real, each one an individual and not a "type." The environment was described almost sensuously--you wanted to be there. Rebecca's Sunnybrook Farm had the feel of a distant sepia tinted photo. Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm is not a bad book. It's over 100 yrs old and is worth reading to give an idea of what life was like then. But Anne of Green Gables is inspriational, someone you keep in your heart forever. Kate Wiggins did a good job though, if only to inspire Anne's author (who was, sadly, herself often depressed and said to have committed suicide.) Perhaps it was her own inner torments that drove her to invent such an ebullient and memorable heroine.Charlottenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-45731370894658180302014-03-02T22:48:36.806-06:002014-03-02T22:48:36.806-06:00Minor quibble - Rebecca is more similar to Emily o...Minor quibble - Rebecca is more similar to Emily of New Moon than to Anne. They are basically identical, except that Montgomery is a better writer and had the sense to conclude the story properly. <br /><br />I just finished the sequel and there is no resolution at the end of that, either. I can't remember the last time I felt so cheated by the end of a book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-91720891067549224782013-10-19T01:49:04.852-05:002013-10-19T01:49:04.852-05:00By the way, thank you for opening up this discussi...By the way, thank you for opening up this discussion! I love talking about great books, even though we might not all agree. Both AoGG and RoSF hold a special place in my heart so thank you for bringing some attention to both!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-38996315539726298682013-10-19T01:39:53.462-05:002013-10-19T01:39:53.462-05:00Years after falling in love with AoGG, in my early...Years after falling in love with AoGG, in my early 20s, I picked up RoSF. I immediately noticed the many similarities between the 2. Not just the characters, but the circumstances, the town, the references to faith and religion, and even specific scenes.<br /><br />RoSF of course paled in comparison to AoGG because I had already loved Anne for many years. Plus Anne had been brought to life in the mini-series. Not to mention that Anne was given a whole series of novels which provided the reader with a longer, more intimate relationship with her. But I still thoroughly enjoyed RoSF and have reread it time and again over the years.<br /><br />I'm now in my late 30s and just finished rereading RoSF for the umpth time. I now have a much greater appreciation for RoSF and actually find it equal to, if not better (yes, I said it) than AoGG.<br /><br />When I was younger, I think I would have agreed wholeheartedly with your review. Now, I find myself thinking almost the opposite. To me, AoGG was more like a fantasy, a dream world, (dare I say it?) a bit of fluff. RoSF was rooted much more in reality. This was probably one of the reasons that I enjoyed AoGG more when I was younger and in my "romantical" stage.<br /><br />I disagree with you that any of her background was "unnecessary" as it helped to shape who she was. And also that Rebecca "might as well have been an orphan." Her close ties to her large family played an integral role in the book!<br /><br />Rebecca was also portrayed as a smart girl. While not top of the class in every subject, she excelled in many of the same ways that Anne did, including completing college in 3 instead of 4 years (which Anne also did). I actually found Rebecca to be more believable than Anne. <br /><br />Yet, even while I find more serious "substance" in RoSF, it still provides a light-hearted emotion in my heart every time I read it. Overall, RoSF is a much more mature read to me compared to AoGG, with more underlying currents and subtleties behind the obvious.<br /><br />Also, while the part of me that craves immediate gratification would have liked to see Rebecca and Alan Ladd develop more of a romantic relationship in the novel, I actually better appreciate the fact that this did not happen, that it was only hinted at. After all, Rebecca only had 1 book while Anne had several. Anne didn't get together with Gilbert until a few books down. <br /><br />I guess one of the big clinchers for me and why overall I now am more in awe of RoSF than AoGG is that Rebecca came FIRST. At times a part of me felt like LM Montgomery did quite a bit of plaguarizing because there are soooo many things in AoGG that were clearly taken from RoSF. Kate Douglas Wiggins created this original, refreshing character; SHE created the world and inhabitants of what later became Avonlea. LMM took what KDW had already created and extended it beautifully, but we have to remember, this was the "child" of KDW and not LMM.<br /><br />I think how much a reader enjoys and appreciates RoSF depends on how closely tied that reader already is to AoGG. My review of RoSF would have been different had I written one when I was younger. Overall though, both versions are simply amazing. I LOVE Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm, and I LOVE Anne of Green Gables. I am truly grateful that both exist and continue to thoroughly enjoy each. If you haven't yet read RoSF and are willing to read it, not as a comparison to AoGG but on its own merit, I would highly recommend it. It's too wondrous to miss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-7903161908373814462013-06-14T15:09:21.995-05:002013-06-14T15:09:21.995-05:00I read this as a girl, but sadly after Anne. And A...I read this as a girl, but sadly after Anne. And Anne does win though I give credit to Rebecca for coming first.<br /><br />As for the unanswered question. Eric Wiggins (the original author's grand nephew) wrote Rebecca books with her married to Adam Ladd.Kendra U Arrynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073609972993546567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-56131729392346417932012-09-02T18:45:56.199-05:002012-09-02T18:45:56.199-05:00Anonymous 1 (Jeannie) and 2: it's so great fin...Anonymous 1 (Jeannie) and 2: it's so great finding other people who have the same feelings about a book as I do. It's gratifying.Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15867744753830511111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-70551931300464950282011-11-29T21:51:49.904-06:002011-11-29T21:51:49.904-06:00I just finished reading RoSF and the first words o...I just finished reading RoSF and the first words out of my mouth were, "Ah man..it's not supposed to end like that!" Then, I immediately searched for a sequal, which led me to "New Chronicles..." Well, I read two lines and new it didn't pick up where the first one ended. So, I deleted it from my Kindle (at least it was free!) and Googled the big unanswered question, "Did Adam Ladd marry Rebecca?" This led me to your blog and comments and I just had to let you know that I agree with you 100% including being annoyed that hardly any of the story took place at Sunnybrook Farm! I'm almost 30 now and had already met Anne, so poor Rebecca just couldn't measure up to her in comparison. Glad I came across your comments! Maybe if we all just decide to agree that they eventually got married, then we'll feel a little less let-down? lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-67229226850605916942011-11-08T17:04:01.460-06:002011-11-08T17:04:01.460-06:00I just finished reading RoSF this afternoon & ...I just finished reading RoSF this afternoon & I'm 41, I never read it when I was younger. I totally agree with you Kathy. Mark Twain may have found Rebecca, "beautiful and moving and satisfying" I was left wanting more and feel quite let down that there isn't another book to pick up where this left off. I too have thoroughly enjoyed Anne of Green Gables and saw the similiarities between the two. L. M. Montgomery's beloved books at least left me satisfied. Thanks for sharing your posts and giving vent to what I'm currently feeling!<br />JeannieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-5071516646191379592011-01-27T22:25:29.241-06:002011-01-27T22:25:29.241-06:00Yeah, I feel pretty well justified in telling you ...Yeah, I feel pretty well justified in telling you you're right. This one is probably best read only by young girls who *haven't* read Anne yet!Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15867744753830511111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-5198197471684654162011-01-24T14:39:26.593-06:002011-01-24T14:39:26.593-06:00I loved Anne of Green Gables growing up, but someh...I loved Anne of Green Gables growing up, but somehow I never got around to this one. Guess I didn't miss much.Melissa (Avid Reader)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02119628715475021774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-12690730722958443792011-01-18T20:21:49.911-06:002011-01-18T20:21:49.911-06:00You've definitely picked a good group of girls...You've definitely picked a good group of girls!Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15867744753830511111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-69443949070073100662011-01-18T13:17:48.105-06:002011-01-18T13:17:48.105-06:00Yes, that Sara-- When ever I think of the girls, I...Yes, that Sara-- When ever I think of the girls, I always recall very fondly: Anne, Sara, Laura Ingalls & the March girls-- even Nancy Drew and I didn't read her much but never do I think of Rebecca-- actually, I forgot about her completely until I spotted the book in the library last year.Lesahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05102907186589066829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-5237402875282322352011-01-17T21:07:57.878-06:002011-01-17T21:07:57.878-06:00Kristi--ooh, I'll have to remember to use reve...Kristi--ooh, I'll have to remember to use reverse psychology on you! ;)<br /><br />Lesa--I don't think I've ever read Pollyanna but from what I know of her I'm afraid I would feel like smacking her. Which is odd, because I'm pretty optimistic myself. Also, just have to ask . . . Sara who? Are we talking A Little Princess?<br /><br />Melody--I guess you've read the Anne of Green Gables books? It will be interesting to see how you think RoSF compares to them!Kathyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15867744753830511111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-67329429917650125212011-01-17T12:36:59.478-06:002011-01-17T12:36:59.478-06:00I never read this one either, and felt like I shou...I never read this one either, and felt like I should have. I probably still will someday, but it is interesting to hear that there is a reason it is less known!Melodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08151339860580266808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-29529651088664863792011-01-17T09:11:33.519-06:002011-01-17T09:11:33.519-06:00I did read this as a kid and liked it well enough ...I did read this as a kid and liked it well enough but after reading a bit of it last year in the school library, I posted: why don't I ever think of Rebecca- I always remember Anne, Sara, ect. <br /><br />The writing style did seem geared toward younger readers.<br /><br />What about Pollyanna? I'm not sure if I ever read that one--but it is from the same era-- might be interesting to compare all three.Lesahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05102907186589066829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2323593442539882992.post-65141898280055624382011-01-17T02:21:25.279-06:002011-01-17T02:21:25.279-06:00You're not the only one that didn't read i...You're not the only one that didn't read it. My sister owned it and my mom kept telling me I should read it. I'm so stubborn that the more someone tells me to do something, the less likely I am to do it.<br /><br />I'm glad I didn't. It probably would have annoyed me. I wasn't into sappy back then either.Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07343557750428307066noreply@blogger.com